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FlareonOFun
There is also staring at a candle
I would caution against that as it can damage your eyes after a while
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Lucilyn: no more than staring at any light can (edited)
4:12 PM
remember to blink occasionally no matter what activity you're doing (candle meditation, or gaming real hard)
4:12 PM
straining your eyes is bad for their health
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I've always found it to burn the light onto my eyes more than a screen does but fair enough
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Lucilyn: I dunno, just googled and looked through the top results (edited)
4:13 PM
but sorry, I didn't mean "literally any light"
4:13 PM
I just meant candle light is not different from other forms of light
4:13 PM
anything of equivalent brightness would have the same effect
4:14 PM
only real risk with candles is eye strain from, well, straining your eyes
4:14 PM
I think looking at "bright" lights in the dark is slightly worse than in other scenarios, though not extremely so
4:15 PM
it just leads to eye strain quicker
4:15 PM
easily feelable (but also easily ignorable) though, so again, just remember to blink and not push your eyes too hard no matter what you're doing
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I guess my thinking that staring into a candle is harmful could come from my personal bias given i have an uncomfortable amount of sensitivity to light, including rather benign light I didn't think of that before posting lol
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Lucilyn: well, I think you'd have the exact same effect replacing that candle with a little similarly-bright electric light is all (edited)
4:19 PM
I do think candle-staring meditation would hurt your eyes less if you didn't do it in a pitch black room
4:19 PM
same for like, computer/phone screen use
4:19 PM
it's not the end of the world though, just a multiplier on how fast your eyes will start to strain
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Reisen
I do think candle-staring meditation would hurt your eyes less if you didn't do it in a pitch black room
TRUE i have horrible lighting in my room and i do a lot of my work at night so i could also be thinking of that
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The candle is an example (but my host did see some trippy things), just staring at something can help focus
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/20/2023 11:08 PM
whatever you do do not put candlelight in your eyes
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Do you mean... put the candle in your eye?
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/20/2023 11:19 PM
no! I said don’t
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Too late kit kat now I have one less eye
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/20/2023 11:25 PM
dw you and me have 1.5 eye on average
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1.5 eye is a good average
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/20/2023 11:36 PM
give me a sec and i will open my third eye and we get 2 on average
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If we count our mind's eye we will have 3 in average!
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/21/2023 12:09 AM
only if you have 2 mind’s eyes
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Huh I must have miscalculated
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 4/21/2023 1:52 AM
that’s two people with eyes minds Person 1- 1 eye, 1 mind’s eye Person 2- 3 eyes, 1 mind’s eye Does that not average to 3?
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/21/2023 8:21 AM
so why did you assume i have mind’s eye
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 4/21/2023 8:07 PM
oh… 😔
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Noo Skyler don't be sad
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/21/2023 8:22 PM
hey! don't tell her what she can or cannot be, she is a strong person and can choose do what she wants
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Oh, I'm sorry.
8:24 PM
Didn't mean to offend anyone-
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/21/2023 8:24 PM
don't you EVER be sorry!!
8:25 PM
wow I'm such a motivator today
8:25 PM
i should be paid for it
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Oh... I'm sorry for being sorry...
8:26 PM
Oh, sorry, I said sorry again.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/21/2023 8:26 PM
fine i will let you say sorry once but don't do it again
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/21/2023 8:26 PM
being silly for free too
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Okay, sorry.
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I'm sorry that your sorry
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I'm sorry that you are sorry that I'm sorry
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i'm sorry to hear about your sorries
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
only if you have 2 mind’s eyes
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/22/2023 9:54 AM
I have 3 now!
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I have a question, does anyone here have ADHD? When "forcing", do you struggle with focus?
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/22/2023 3:12 PM
99% of the internet identify as having ADHD so yeah if you ask anywhere someone will have an ADHD the answers might not be relating to you though, a lot of people misdiagnose themself. what i think you can do is to try for yourself and see if >you< can do it, not if someone identifying as having adhd has had any issues
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I'm diagnosed with adhd I don't struggle a lot with focus when forcing because of my meds
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Kei Wendt
I'm diagnosed with adhd I don't struggle a lot with focus when forcing because of my meds
Ahh I don't take meds
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I've heard caffeine can help for people who have adhd
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
99% of the internet identify as having ADHD so yeah if you ask anywhere someone will have an ADHD the answers might not be relating to you though, a lot of people misdiagnose themself. what i think you can do is to try for yourself and see if >you< can do it, not if someone identifying as having adhd has had any issues
I mean I'm AuDHD, and I was just asking out of curiosity. I'm also asking for other ppls experiences just because I find it interesting to hear other people's perspectives. Im very inattentive (ADHD) and find my mind can wander off, especially with all the other thoughts I tend to have in general, I know I struggle sometimes but again, I was asking for others perspectives
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/22/2023 3:32 PM
I'm diagnosed with adhd I don't struggle a lot with focus when forcing because of my meds
@Kei Wendt - jump that could explain the memory problems you have and dissociation
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Kei Wendt
I've heard caffeine can help for people who have adhd
Caffeine makes me sleepy
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
I'm diagnosed with adhd I don't struggle a lot with focus when forcing because of my meds
@Kei Wendt - jump that could explain the memory problems you have and dissociation
I don't think adhd causes dissociation but it would explain the memory problems Though i am medicated and the meds work for my focus so the memory problems are a little weird imo
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nx 🌩
Caffeine makes me sleepy
Yeah that happens in a lot of people with adhd since it affects us differently
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/22/2023 3:33 PM
sure @nx 🌩 i'm just hoping you won't brickwall yourself by seeing what others experience
3:34 PM
I don't think adhd causes dissociation but it would explain the memory problems Though i am medicated and the meds work for my focus so the memory problems are a little weird imo
@Kei Wendt - jump i saw some research linking dissociation and adhd
3:34 PM
is the doctor you are seeing the same one that prescribed you medication?
3:34 PM
doctor as in therapist
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Yes
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
I don't think adhd causes dissociation but it would explain the memory problems Though i am medicated and the meds work for my focus so the memory problems are a little weird imo
@Kei Wendt - jump i saw some research linking dissociation and adhd
That's interesting, i've never heard of that before but i suppose it makes sense
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/22/2023 3:36 PM
if you bring/brought up dissociation to the doctor they will probably see it through the context of adhd and will know how to tell those apart
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
sure @nx 🌩 i'm just hoping you won't brickwall yourself by seeing what others experience
Na, I'll be fine 🙂 thank you tho, I know everyone has their own experiences but that's also what makes it interesting to know
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
if you bring/brought up dissociation to the doctor they will probably see it through the context of adhd and will know how to tell those apart
Yeah
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Kei Wendt
I don't think adhd causes dissociation but it would explain the memory problems Though i am medicated and the meds work for my focus so the memory problems are a little weird imo
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/22/2023 4:42 PM
I do think that adhd can cause dissociation sometimes and is somehow related, but the relationship is deffinitely not a simple one.
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frequently changing dimensions can also cause dissociation
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frequently changing dimensions can also cause dissociation
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/22/2023 5:01 PM
I can confirm
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/22/2023 5:02 PM
You shouldnt change dimenssions more than once a week or so
5:02 PM
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snubs out no longer lit
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5:03 PM
You can't snub a vibe out thooo
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that would be fine but you also posted a simpsons gif sooooo
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That's fair and understandable tbh
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One has to keep being insane to handle alternate dimensions or anything beyond understanding, and having ADHD does help go with the flow of chaos
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would i be able to develop a tulpa that mimics a recently deceased friend? i just got here, so I don't really know the limits or standard practices or whatever
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/24/2023 8:37 AM
i wouldnt do that
8:38 AM
imo, thats something you should be able to handle yourself
8:39 AM
it takes a toll but still
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i’m really sorry this happened to your friend I’m not sure if this is a good use of tulpamancy, i’m concerned it could disrupt the healthy grieving process
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BJarchive
would i be able to develop a tulpa that mimics a recently deceased friend? i just got here, so I don't really know the limits or standard practices or whatever
imo that tulpa will be created out of your impression of your friend only. to be blunt, the only thing your tulpa can ever mimic are your memories you have of that friend, so, you won't be able to develop a tulpa that purely mimics your friend, let alone a deceased one
10:52 AM
i'm very sorry to hear this about your friend, though. i wish you comfort
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Tulpas also deviate from their source
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 4/24/2023 2:54 PM
Yeah, and giving a whole ass living being the knowledge that they're based on someone dead can be a lot for them to handle. It's pretty existential imo.
2:55 PM
That being said, loss is incredibly painful, and while this may seem to be a good idea now, I believe it will prevent true healing from happening easily.
2:55 PM
You can't replace someone, especially not someone who was close to you, like this.
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Yo. I read a guide on starting out Tuplamancy (JD's guide) and I might've gotten confused.
2:59 PM
There was no specified time between the visual phase and the personality phase. I did them both at the same time. Should I continue as is or should I restart. (I only need to properly flesh out the face and height) Another guide said that there should be a bit of time.
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 4/24/2023 3:00 PM
Continue as is, but give it more time moving forward if you need to, IMO.
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Yeah I might just keep trying the visualization for a bit
3:04 PM
One more question about puppeting. 1 guide says to puppet the other one says to not do this at all costs. Are there pros and cons?
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 4/24/2023 3:06 PM
I personally don't think it makes much of a difference, but others here might have other opinions.
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Thanks! (edited)
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 4/24/2023 3:16 PM
Of course.
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